Keep reading to find out. Much like Thanos was likely too powerful, quick and or intelligent to let his hand be cut off, Thanos likely could have broken out of the spell. What i'm curious about is why strange didnt use the time stone from the past to restore his own so that future threats like dormmamu wont be a problem. Maw stopped Strange from casting a spell with the time stone, the stones thanos has can be used to do the same thing. Like in the MCU, the ultimate resolution came down to a plan by Doctor Strange -- albeit one that had far worse consequences. Warning! He can't control anything about time, just is independent of it. Copyright 2020 The Direct Media Group LLC. After being somewhat corrupted by the use of the Darkhold, this variant of Strange discovered that his actions had actually set an Incursion in motion, resulting in one reality crashing into another, killing untold trillions in a flash. Although it's hard to tell how many Infinity Stones he possessedat that point in time, he already has the golden Gauntlet that Eitri the Dwarf made for him on Nidavellir,most likely meaning that this moment wassimilar to the equivalent timeframe in Avengers: Infinity War. The Illuminati Is All but Confirmed for 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness', Marvel's New Trailer for 'Doctor Strange 2' Has Fans Wondering if Wanda is the Villain, 'Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness' Will Be the Scariest MCU Movie Yet. Let's be real here: Dr. Strange affected freaking Dormammu with his atomic manipulation , if Dormammu had hard time against it, then Thanos has no Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness showed an alternate ending to Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame where Thanos was defeated on Earth-838. The portal is just used to travel in universe, Strange can't even use it to get back to Earth from Titan. So, if the non-time stones are independent of time, then they could theoretically be able to act outside of normal time and perhaps their combined power lacking time could give their user their independence from time. Thanos could just take it, and end the loop himself. Endgame revealed that this included the Avengers discovering time travel, going back to get the Stones, making the Stark tech gauntlet, and bringing everybody back to life before Tony snapped his fingersand sacrificed himself to kill Thanos. Thanos and the Avengers' interests align in Avengers: Mech Strike #4by Jed Mackay and Carlos Magno. I think that is a big reason why the avengers lost in Infinity war. At first, it appears that Doctor Strange gives the Time Stone to Thanos in exchange for Tony's life. Even if they'd cut off his arm, taken the Gauntlet, or if Strange had somehow trapped him in Dormammu's dimension, the Soul Stone would have remained loyal to Thanos, and rescued/saved/healed him from any such fate. In Stephen Strange's MCU debut, he beat Dark Round 2: Doctor Strange with time stone (with prep) vs 4-stone Thanos, 20 feet apart, time loop already activated. Doctor Strange has seen Lang's role in the future, and knows Stark possesses the knowledge and technology to use the secrets of the Quantum Realm to thwart Thanos and reverse the effects of the snap by combining his resources with Hank Pym's technology. His victory in Avengers:Infinity War ultimately comes down to his sheer force of will and ability to do what the Avengers and Guardians wouldn't to achieve his goal. Would have made for a This also came before Baron Mordo was a part of the team, which was also most likely because he wasn't the Sorcerer Supreme of his universe yet, with Doctor Strange involved instead. I feel like together, they would have prevented Thanos from obtaining the Time and Mind stone leaving Thor with the ability to cut off his head. Just two years later, Doctor Strange found himself fighting another near unstoppable force who threatened mass destruction: Thanos. He also conducts industry interviews, is a Rotten Tomatoes certified film critic, and knows a LOT about the X-Men. This would've prevented the other Eternals from finding out their true purpose and rebelling. RELATED: How Marvel's Eternals Hid in Plain Sight for Thousands of Years. Also, The Ancient One mentions that she can't see beyond her death so there may have also been some in that 14 million which they did succeed but Strange died before seeing that possibility and so counted it as a fail. Why didn't he repeat the trick on Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War? The person needs to consciously think and act to get them to do the things you want. Strange was after destroying the stones. Joshua Isaak is a Comics Staff Writer for Screenrant and attended New York University. Strange himself used the time stone to trap Dormammu and his dimension in a time loop. You have raised a good point though, personally I was under the impression that the loop spell can only be undo by Doctor Strange himself (the caster), since no matter how many times Dormammu destroyed him along with the eye of agamotto which contains the stone itself (from within the time-incarnations) over and over again through countless time loops, and it still could not break the spell. By venturing across the multiverse and weakening the walls separating different timelines, Strange was single-handily responsible for this event, to the horror of himself and his friends. Copyright 2023 Distractify. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of them showing the Avengers victorious. Or maybe mind stone could take over DS mind and force him to undo/give up, but Thanos do not have time Stone here so that is out of the option. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Would have made for a less compelling story though i guess. One Redditor shared, "Having rewatched Avengers: Endgame, I have come to the conclusion that allowing Thanos to obtain all of the infinity stones was the only way for Dr. Based on feats and logic Strange wins all rounds via time stop. Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain thanks to giving Thanos the Time Stone and allowing him to kill countless (in the name of eventually restoring them all). Indeed, Dormammu was from the Dark Dimension, an alternate world that is removed from any conventional understanding of time. Are you willing to sacrifice others in order bring about the greater good. Doctor Strange uses the Time Stone to view over 14 million alternate futures to determine the outcome of their battle but is unsettled to see only one of Is this the one?" Web#Thanos #DoctorStrange #InfinityWar"We're in the Endgame now." Throughout Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, various characters note with some anger that Strange's only way to beat Thanos resulted in untold pain Seeing as the Book of Vishanti had the ability to grant the reader anything they need to accomplish their goals, the Illuminati probably didn't have to endure five years of hardship before going back in time to get old versions of the Stones the way the Avengers did. That is why the story of Jesus Christ resonates so strongly with people because they believe he sacrificed himself to save everyone. He knows that he has the ability to alter the time stream, so I presume he was considering those possibilities as well in his 14 million options. @zezima: logically four power stones should be more powerful than one power stone just by sheer quantity. Well if other people can show my view of the film is flawed I'll agree but it seemed like hes only able to continuous time loop and return from the dead in the dark dimension because there is no time there only the power of time that he brought with him. But it's clear that while other options might have been available in certain circumstances, Strange responded the best he could to the threat of Thanos in the MCU timeline. It's likely the main reason he was able to take Stormbreaker to the chest and still live. While this horrifies the other Avengers, this clearly isn't a power limited to Kang. He does go through some measure of self sacrifice to achieve his goals but his main thing is that other people have to be sacrificed to save everyone else. However,not everyone is convinced by this theory. If even one person is standing a few feet away from where they need to be they could be killed, injured, or too slow to help out another. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. He did this for who knows how long until everything worked out exactly how he planned. If the Avengers haddefeated Thanos on Titan, then the events in Eternalsmight've played out very differently. lol. Did he? Strange wins. Rights, lets do that. , Honestly revealing it at all is too risky he could just snap and suddenly the eye is bubbles and strange can't harness the power and then he can just walk through them either way and get it, On top of that there's nothing honestly stopping him from sending strange to the dead of space or turning him into bubbles and he an do that just as fast or faster than strangest time magic. :) This guy does fake pitch meetings for movies and has about 10 of them devoted to MarvelDoctor Strange Pitch Meeting. A victory for YOU means defeating Thanos. The snap greatly damaged Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet, and that may prove to be the necessary weakening for the survivors to undo his actions in Avengers: Endgame. ", Some of these comments show why the ancient one would NEVER have given you the time stone. With the Avengers locking Thanos in place and almost taking the Gauntlet, it could be assumed that they would've beaten him and taken all the Infinity Stones back. @doomstoaa: I'll ask again confirmed where? Strange moved the apple forward after only practicing with the Stone for a minute - imagine what he would be capable of if he had just a little more time to hone his skills. There may be only one way to do that. In the world of chess, an "endgame" strategy refers to the tactic of promoting a pawn into a more powerful piece and turn the tide of the game. In the prime MCU, Strange gave the Time Stone to Thanos after the Mad Titan stabbed Tony Stark, only leaving the villain one Infinity Stone short of completing the set as he left Strange, Stark, Spider-Man, and four of the Guardians of the Galaxy on Titan. Kaecilius summoned Dormamu through some kind of ritual, and that took some serious preparation. Their leader Ajak may not have been inspired by Tony Stark's sacrifice and had the realization that Earth is worth saving. >Dr. Despite Strange memorably saying "There was no other way" before disappearing in a haze of dust, he was quite wrong; there was indeed another way. Thanos had to win. Strange will only reset his memory after the end of each loop. When Strange reversed time in the final fight of his movie, Kaecellius and his followers broke out of the spell within few moments. If this is the case,many are left wondering why Strange didn't intervene. In 2016's Doctor Strange, Stephen uses the Time Stone to age an apple forward in time, watching it rot in the span of seconds. Unfortunately, nothing can stop the warlord, who goes as far as to nearly kill Tony Stark it's at this moment that Doctor Strange decides to give up the Time Stone. WebThanos with 4 stones should have no problems breaking free even if strange somehow succeeds in casting a spell when he failed doing so against Maw. Based in London, he oversees a global news & features team based in NY, LA and beyond. Yes, its Thanos. Ya, Ive seen one theory saying the power stone over-rules the other stones. There is always a chance but by himself he would not have much of one with out doing something dramatic like when he fought the Hulk He used the po Doctor Strange beat Dormammu by trapping him in a time loop. Or maybe Thanos resurrects Gamora out of grief, and this gives the Avengers the opening they need. So i doubt Strange can use that on such a hurry situation. Doctor Strange 2 seemed to indicate that there was another way to defeat the Mad Titan besides the way it worked out in the Infinity Saga - one that didn't require the world to go through such turmoil. The pair bicker throughout the entire movie, but we're just supposed to believe that the Master of Mystical Arts wants to save Tony that desperately? I think that's one of the reason why Doctor Strange did not used the Time stone during the infinity war. What if Dr Strange kept looping time with Thanos?Just keep bargaining with Thanos until he gives up like with Dormamu.That would be quite the sight. or does he go into a "void" so to speak only to re-emerge later when the hulk snaps everyone back? If you are talking about MCU Dr Strange vs MCU Thanos , then Dr strange would win. Many have assumed the Sorcerer Supreme is playing a long game, one that extends beyond his death at the snapof the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet after viewing over 14 million possible futures (14,000,605, to be precise) before his fight, though it is unclear how this will ultimately unfold in Avengers: Endgame. And of course, Doctor Strange is not entirely helpless even without the time stone, and capable of putting up a decent fight with his verstility to protect the stone, so it might not be so easy for Thanos to "just take it" and end the loop himself even if he could perform the undo spell. For requests, comments, or to hear his pitch for a third Avatar series that incorporates robots, you can reach him atbs.zachary@gmail.com. And found that his passion lays in scriptwriting, where he can combine his love of movies, writing, and storytelling. Kind of a plot armor argument I think but to take it sincerely: -We have Thanos w/ Power - Space - Soul Stone, -With the black Order in full power (Minus Gamora and Nebula), -With Chitauri Army (Or whatever assaulted Wakanda in Infinity War), -The Avengers with the Mind Stone (attached to Vision) and Time Stone, -No Hulk (Because he wasn't coming out at the time of infinity war), -Maybe the guardians of the galaxy? With the heroes of the MCU seemingly less conditioned to the bizarre limits of the multiverse, they may not have been able to counter before it destroyed their universe in the process. Being trapped for millennia would certainly have an impact, but as presented Thanos is a true unstoppable force. The gauntlet works there. The team utilized the Book of Vishanti to come out of this battle on top as Professor X, Captain Carter, Maria Rambeau, Black Bolt, Mr. While none of these is a resolute explanation,they show that Doctor Strange putting Thanos in a timeloop may not be as foolproof as it may initially seem. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. However, the cost would have been far too great to take on. -Where is Captain Marvel? Impossible, they needed 2 movies out of the Thanos arc. Strange saw millions of possible futures and only saw one that ended in victory and that was the one that happened in Endgame. Ever since the release of Avengers: Infinity War last year, fans have pondered what, exactly, Doctor Strange's long term plans are after willingly surrendering the Time Stone to Thanos after the battle on Titan. Thanos with 4 stones should have no problems breaking free even if strange somehow succeeds in casting a spell when he failed doing so against Maw. Thor could have brought rocket and groot to titan instead of wakanda, dr strange could have chopped thanos in half with a portal when they put him to sleep, or at least cut off his left hand, loki could have used the space stone to get the asgardians to earth and then they could have a 3 to 1 stone advantage on thanks, etc. In Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, Strange made it clear that there was only one way to defeat Thanos among more than 14 million options that he looked into. In Thanos had the infinity gauntlet, he probably has a better chance of winning but doctor Strange if one of the more smart characters in the MCU, ADVERTISEMENT ", I mean the tva just made the timestone look weak as hell even though it is easily the strongest stone all other are nothing compared to it not even the soul the stone is as strong as it. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is now playing in theaters worldwide. And a time loop isn't quite an immovable object. However based on onscreen feats, I'm not sure either of them could counter the effect of time Stone. In fact, Avengers: Secret Wars title logo and color scheme seem to signal Doctor Dooms Secret Wars upgrade as God Emperor Doom. He's covered a wide range of movies and TV shows - from digging out obscure MCU Easter eggs to diving deep into deeper meanings of arthouse fare - and has covered a litany of set visits, junkets and film festivals. This, however, would be extremely graphic and would no doubt clash with the family-friendly image Disney cultivates, even in a literal fight for all existence. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, Avengers 4 Theory Explains Why Doctor Strange Gave Thanos the Time Stone, Thanos Action Figure May Reveal His Updated Avengers: Endgame Armor, Avengers: Endgame LEGO Set Reveals a Massive Upgrade for War Machine, Avengers: Endgame - Once Again, It All Comes Down to Ant-Man, Avengers: Endgame Toy Offers Clear Look at Iron Man's Quantum Armor, 10 Worst Written Female Characters In An Action Movie, Revenge of the Sith Almost Had a Very Different 'I Am Your Father' Reveal. And maybe (and apologise for the cross fandom mention {HP}) Strange is only worthy of possessing one of the infinity stones and not mess up everything - but again, new Spider-Man trailer seems to imply hes not worthy of the time stone either. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. 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