SPECIFICATIONS: Mossberg MVP Scout Caliber: .308 Win. (without magazine) Sights: Iron with rail Stock: Laminate Action: Bolt Finish: Black, gray or black Capacity: 10+1 rounds Price: $1,139. the idea of putting a scope on a fighting rifle is retarded. You see our local dealer orders them with the synthetic stock and big rubber butt to save a few bucks figuring the buyers will customize anyway. was used in combination with the M14 by snipers in Viet Nam with excellent results. I went to Basic Training at Fort Knox, Kentucky in 1967. As for your dealer having a rack full of M1As not selling.. you are clearly showing the true purpose of your review with that statement. That $50 Leapers pistol scope will not hold its zero. Problem two: like its predecessor, the legendary M1 Garand, the M1A Scout Squads safety positioned in the front of the trigger guard. Original M1As were once even made from surplus M14 parts, though Springfield has long since run out. When looking at the full-size version compared to the shorter Scout Squad rifle, I was curious how much the muzzle brake cut down on overall recoil compared to its full-size M1A brother. I really want one of these. A good scout scope would be a worthwhile indulgence. Though its never reached the same level of popularity as the AR-15, the M1A still has a rather large and very devoted group of fans despite the M14s less than stellar reputation, earned during its service in Vietnam. Extended eye relief scopes are more commonly seen on handguns but there was method to Coopers madness. I dont want to say they all hated the M16A1 but they all had these terrific battle rifles taken out of their hands and replaced by the 16s. Picked up an M1A squad scout a few years ago and will never go back! Id hate to see any more of our great manufactures go out of business or be sold to foreign corporations. A shortened (18" barrel), lightened version of the M1A is catalogued as the M1A Scout Squad Rifle. 22 inches is just too much for me to handle. I personally like a medium height on my scout rifles, but with the M1A, low rings do the trick. The M1A standard model, as the name suggests, is the basic 'full barrel . All Deals; Today; . I have many rifles including an AK47 and if I had to grab one rifle in a SHTF scenario, the M1A is the one. The M1A Scout Squad gives you the maneuverability of a scout rifle with the same power and features of a legendary American rifle. The U.S. military mothballed them after only 5 years. Steel buttplates for m14 type rifles are all over the net. I opted for the full size M1A from Springfield, trading a bit of convenience for distance. Springfields Scout Squad rifle features a forward-mounted scout-style Picatinny rail. Have owned an M1A Scout Squad w/ Aimpoint Comp ML sight since 2000, and given a choice of one weapon to grab if the proverbial "balloon went up." Just recently graduated a FrontSight 4 day practical rifle course with it. Finally, the M1A is just a beautiful, traditional-looking rifle. Otm. I have a Springfield M1A scout and I love it more than anything. But my daddy always said that if I couldnt hit it with iron sights, I probably didnt need to be shooting at it. Barrel: 18 in. Springfield M1A .308 WIn Scout Squad Rifle with Desert FDE Finish In Stock Brand: Springfield; Item Number: AA9116; Springfield M1A Standard 308 with Flat Dark Earth Composite Stock In Stock Brand: Springfield; Item Number: MA9120 Springfield M1A Loaded . 4. The Scout Squad comes with a 2 stage match trigger that breaks for me around 4.8-5.3lbs thats standard from Springfield. Is it a Leupold? A first-class rifle in all regards. In those days I believe the toy manufacturer Matel made them. The Scout Squad features an 18-inch parkerized carbon steel barrel with a specialized muzzle brake. B Savage 775A 16 GA. Springfield Loaded 1911 .45. Speed and reliability were two of his concerns (another reason to opt for a bolt action) and he wanted to keep the area above the action free of any obstruction (like a scope). The SAGE EBR stock (either style) is a real upgrade and I prefer them over traditional stocks. And rifles have heft. The Springfield Armory M1A Scout Rifle is semi-automatic, Jeff Cooper specified bolt action and the Springfield Armory M1A Scout Rifle weighs in at 8.8 pounds while Jeff Cooper specified the scout rifle weigh less than 6.5 pounds. The scope makes the rifle more fun, my old eyes dont see well enough to use the steel ones. First, with no illuminated system you cant use this rifle at night. Shop All Magazines; PMAG +5 Extension w/ Springfield Armory Logo. "There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy"--George Washington. The trigger pull is user adjustable from 3 to 7 pounds, the bolt handle is oversized for easier use, and the synthetic stock includes side rails for mounting accessories. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, The Savage AccuStock provides a rigid interface between stock, action and barrel, and supports parts along the entire length rather than at just two points. That was after a four-day practical rifle class. I wouldnt hold that against Sringfield. We already have an account registered for email address I believe the scout squad has a forward rail already for other options if you desire. I also have the Smith brake on it. Some things that I have learned over the years: The bolt catch / release issue is solved by installing the SEI M14 Extended Bolt Stop/Release. It needs nothing. If you're willing to spend some extra money and wait a little longer (I was), you can buy a custom 'M25' from LRB Arms (their name for the M14 variant) with an integral rail mount machined into the receiver. Barrel: 16.1 in. @John Thanks for the Leatherwood scout scope recommendation. Springfield Armory M1A Rifles The Springfield Standard M1A is well-suited for a day at the range, competition or hanging on your wall in front of an American flag. Hey, if any of you that arent happy with your scout are interested in traing let me know. Springfield M1A Scout Squad 308 with Walnut Stock (NY Compliant) $2,026.00 $1,999.99. Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm IER Scout on the M8 optics rail from UltiMAK. The rifles trigger is a breeze: a classic military two-stage affair. If you must use a brake, I suggest the M14 US Coast Guard / Navy Muzzle Brake from SEI. Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. There are many rifles that fit Coopers criteria but then he added one very distinctive feature a forward-mounted magnified optic with extended eye relief. .308 WIN 6.5 CREED MSRP $1,938 - $2,104 Hellcat Micro-compact Handguns Mossberg seems to be mostly known for its Model 500 shotgun, but the company makes plenty of popular rifles as well, including the Mossberg MVP Scout. And with the ability for very quick follow up shots its probably also quite serviceable for elk and even moose. Sure wish Id had an M1A scout type rifle instead of the M-16A2s out in the sandbox, before it was the sandbox, back in 91. I believe to make it NY compliant ie: no thread barrel they had to relocate the front site. [Ed: unless it is.] My feeling is something like this with a Spikes Tactical chest rig for magazines would be a perfect go-to gun for SHTF situations. Rear Sight: Military Aperture, Adjustable for Windage and Elevation Let me know down in the comments below what you think. Check. Every model uses AISI 8620 alloy steel receiver (though early models were made from blank surplus M14 receivers) and are able to fit in the same stocks. Megan did a great job in showcasing the different models. The M1As accuracy was excellent. In todays world of impersonal, all Picatinny-rail covered, AR-based clones, this gun is a true beauty. She has an extensive linguistics and writing background, and has written for everyone from Allstate to celebrity plastic surgeons. SEI Flash Suppressor/Muzzle Brake. Do you think Jeff Cooper would have approved of the combination of scout-scope placement and Garand action? M1A Magazines. The major difference between the M1A and the M14 is the selector switch. anything extra and your Gotta love the product management on this ! We investigate Springfield Armory's M1A models and rundown the pros and cons of each model to help you choose the M1A that's right for you. The .308 round (7.6251) is a legit big boy round. I have been loading 100 gr bullets for it recently, and it functions very nicely, no cycling problems yet. When looking at capable 308 battle rifles, its hard to ignore the M1A line of rifles. For accuracy testing, I picked up a few different 308 match rounds to see how the M1A grouped at 100 and 300 yards. Since I decided to go this route, I made a makeshift cheek riser until I can pick up a McMillan stock. Nice work. Hello! It is the ultimate National Match shooting machine for longer ranges, with superior accuracy out to 750. But yeah, the shorter barrel is handy too. The National Match model also has a National Match trigger group with a 4.5-pound two-stage trigger. The M1A feels similar to both the M14 and the M1 Garand. Good review. Stag Arms Model 2 AR-15. Leupolds Scout Scope is great too. Aside from caliber, Springfield also gives you a couple of options for your stock when picking out a Loaded M1A. Secondly, without adjustable knobs, you have to site in at a fixed distance, say at 100 yards, which limits you to hit at 300 yards, and with a600 yard 308 cartridge? Notify Me When Available. For the younger crowd, it may be an adjustment from AR-style rifles but its fairly easy to master with a bit of practice. Mag changes are a simple matter of nose-in-rock-back until you feel the magazine locking into place. Prepare for .308 Win they pretty much all come chambered for that cartridge. Secondly, I never had an equipment failure with the M1A ever. Just the satisfaction of working with a highly-evolved tool that does its job with deadly accuracy and dependable reliability. Interestingly, this rifle features a grey laminated wood stock that is weather resistant and includes rubber spacers that can be used to adjust the length of pull at the buttpad. I qualified with a M-14 in 1967 and spent 2 years living with Mattel Toys-R Us for the rest of my short career in the Marine Corps. Length: 40.3, Style * * * * * There is a picture of one mounted, but I didnt see the type. Proprietary Muzzle Brake The unique muzzle brake on the M1A Scout Squad rifle helps tame 7.62x51mm recoil without adding undue bulk or length. I broke out the chamber brush and solvent and scrubbed my little heart out. Overall Rating * * * * Springfield Armory M1A Loaded 6.5 Creedmoor. The Steyr Scout has a three-position safety with a fire option and two levels of safety, one locks the bolt and one does not. Magazines: 1-10 Round, Parkerized Its a nominal 1-1.5 MOA if I do my part.. Now I have an m1a loaded. Its a battle rifle and an expensive one at that. Springfield Armory. With all of these advantages, its no surprise that the Springfield Armory M1A has experienced more than four decades of continuous production and is still going strong. The term "M1A" is a proprietary title for Springfield Armory's M14-pattern rifle. Low Mount? A red dot could easily be mounted. I bought a Springfield M1A about 2 years ago and Im sorry to say I have yet to fire it, I plan to this summer. The shorter barrel also takes a half-pound off of the rifles overall weight, reducing it 8.8-pounds. But I thought the M14 was the standard service rifle until 1969, when officially replaced by the M16. Acquiring a clear, accurate sight picture is fast and easy. Its the rifles first major ergonomic faux pas; good luck finding and operating the small release under stress. These scout rifles feature a forward-mounted Picatinny rail for optics, ghost ring backup iron sights, a detachable 10-round box magazine (5 rounders are available), and a traditional scope mounting option. Springfield Armory MA5049 M1A Muzzlebrake/Stabilizer 2. If you go the scope route, dont scrimp on your glass. But thats enough about similarities. Comparison Table of The 5 Best M1A Muzzle Brake Explaining the M1A Calibers Muzzle Brake Use Our Top M1A Muzzle Brake Picks 1. Posted June 23, 2022 in Guns & Gear, Other Gear & Gadgets, Reviews, Rifles, Semi-Auto by Matt E with No CommentsTags: M1A Scout Squad Rifle, Scout Squad Review, Springfield Armory M1A, Springfield M1A. Only one company built Cooper his scout rifle while he was alive, the Steyr Scout. There are, however, a few important differences: M1A receivers are made from precision investment cast AISI 8620 alloy steel. Having a low power, high quality scope, such as a Leupold scout scope not only does not hinder your aiming out to 600 yards, but makes it easier and faster to aim than iron sites. While the M1A is a semiautomatic-only rifle it's close enough to the fully-automatic M14 to make the most grizzled Vietnam vet turn all dewy-eyed. American eagle 168gr. Thanks for the article! Saying that, the M1As mount sits high. Well, almost. Precision Armament Hypertap Muzzle Brake 4. The U.S. military mothballed them after only 5 years. I know my gun cabinet would rebel if I try to stack a foreign made (Czech) rifle in it. Have you tried steel cased ammo in it? In addition, the M1A Loaded model is the only one of the Springfield Armory M1A lineup thats available in 6.5 Creedmoor, as well as .308 Win. Fast, light, operable. You've got to have around 12" of eye reliefe on this setup? Let us know in the comments below. Type your email address and well send Now, I understand, the full-size 22 M1A has better range and accuracy at distance, but if we are just looking at shooting enjoyment, I really think the Scout Squad is the better route to go. I dropped a little on the accuracy with the steel, but I only had one fail to fire. That included Israeli, British,and Chilean surplus, as well as a couple of boxes of Federal Golden Eagle 150 grain hunting soft points. Here's the complete price breakdown of this M1A project: Springfield Armory M1A, $1,640; Troy BattleRail M14, $279; McMillan Adjustable M3A, $548; SA Custom Shop glass-bedding service, $175; SA Custom Shop NM tuning, $35; SA Custom Shop NM barrel installation, $230; Leupold Mark 4 LR/T, $1,874; EOTech HHS II, $1,002. Colby, First shot i jerked trigger and was low and left 3, next shot was relaxed and dead on bull. Summary. Additionally, the M1A comes chambered in .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm NATO), one of the most popular long-distance and hunting rounds in the United States. I carried an m-14 with fiberglass stock in the military. But if you live in California, you can opt for a CA-approved version with a muzzle brake instead. Cooper felt that 2-3x magnification was sufficient. While its true that Im far more likely on any given day to be wearing high heels than hiking boots, (even though I feel ridiculous constantly having to put band-aids on the blisters on my feet from where my high heels rub against my bare skin since I literally never wear socks or hose, I digress); size and weight matters alot to a girl like me and I can appreciate a rifle that doesnt feel like Im carrying a sack of bricks. When your head is tilted, your brain thinks there is a imbalance, and your accuracy & precision subconsciously suffers. Even at extended distances of 400 yards and more, the rifle was more than capable of easily making the hits. Chambered in 308 WIN or 6.5 Creedmoor, the M1A series includes the SOCUM, Scout Squad, Standard Issue, Loaded, National Match, and Super Match, all delivering the military-grade performance you require in hunting or sport shooting engagements. I absolutely love this rifle. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. But I am not a purest! But, the original M-16 and ammo? Can anybody tell me how far out a scout squad is accurate? Love shooting it 200 yards sitting. The M1A Tanker model offers a 16.25-inch parkerized carbon steel barrel and a vintage walnut stock. The M1A Loaded models design is based on the National Match Model but optimized even more for competitive performance. Im assuming that was the practical rifle course. Throughout my testing, I decided to put up two boxes of Federal 175gr Sierra MatchKing Boat Tail Hollow Points along with a box of Hornady 178gr Boat Tail Hollow Points. I'm a patient man. You should carry a M240b for a year if you think the M14 is heavyCheers. One thought. Thanks for the review. Savage adds a cheek riser to the stock for improved comfort, a detachable box magazine with 10-round capacity, and a muzzle brake, along with three sling swivel points. The M14 was dropped because the Whiz Kids wanted the M16. The fore-end of the stock sports an integral bipod that folds up completely into the stock, an accessory rail and five sling attachment points, another Cooper notion. It feels like an older system but its still extremely effective, especially at range. The Standard comes chambered .308 Win. I have the standard model with the walnut stock: the classic look. With its 18-inch barrel and scout optics mount forward of the action, its a slightly handier version of the full size M1A: the darling of competitive shooters for generations. I just wish I could find an early one with USGI parts. Thanks! But the barrel is only available in carbon steel. .308 WIN MSRP $1,770 - $1,875 M1A Loaded Rifles A traditional M1A, loaded with all the features you want to take your rifle to the next level. The MSRP for the Springfield Armory M1A Tanker 308 Rifle sits comfortably at $1,987. It has a 22-inch, 6-groove parkerized carbon steel with a 1:11 right-hand twist. Springfield Armory M1A The M1A is a semi-auto, whereas the M14 is a fully automatic weapon. I havent scoped any of them but I am considering mounting a Mark 4 on the 22 and an Eotech on the 16..Im happy with the irons on the 18 . HUH? With an adjustable buttstock and five length positions, the rifle also offers two cheekpiece positions, and accessory rails on the tops, sides, and bottom of the handguard. And quickly. For now, if youve got the $1500 to spend on a bad-ass rifle, and can afford to keep her fed and happy, the M1A Scout Squad is a do-it-all kind of gun. If you opt for the precision adjustable stock in either caliber, you can choose between a black composite stock or a flat dark earth composite stock. Are those the Leupold QRW rings? Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Funny huh? M1A 15-Round Magazine - 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 WIN) / 6.5 Creedmoor. 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